Conversation

What if he’s right?

Marshall McLuhan (1964, age 52).  Here are two short lists.

Three things that haven’t worked in America since the coming of TV:

Movies

National magazines

Comic books

And two things that thanks to TV Americans have discovered a new passion for:

Skin diving

Small cars.

Me (August, 2010, age 58).  Now what?

I wonder if it’s too late to make a call to my broker?

Cordially, Marshall and Me

Reading

Marshall McLuhan, Understanding Media, 1964, pp. 417 and 421.

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What would Marshall say? (continued)

Me (August, 2010, age 58). McLuhan in conversation (continued)

Yesterday we left Marshall in conversation with journalist Herb Caen at a topless restaurant in San Francisco in August 1965.  Readers will recall that McLuhan had called attention to the visual bias of Caen’s language.  Let’s take one more look – sorry, I apologize for my visual orientation – at that exchange.  Here, to refresh your memory is their conversation from yesterday:

[Caen]  Being President of the Leg Men of America, I never felt a primal urge to lunch among the topless ladies, but in such distinguished company who could resist?  ‘Strip steak sandwich,’ I said to waitress Marilyn, who was wearing blue sequin pasties and not much else.  As she walked away, I commented ‘A good-looking girl.

[McLuhan]  Interesting choice of words.  Good-LOOKING girl.  The remark of a man who is visually oriented, not tactually.  And I further noticed that you could not bring yourself to look at her breasts as she took your order.  You examined her only after she walked away – another example of the visual: the further she walked away, the more attractive she became.

Question:  What do you think Caen said next:

(a)    “If you say so Marshall.”

(b)   “Fascinating, I never noticed – look I’ve done it again – my visual orientation.”

(c)    “What?”

(d)   “Actually, I’m rather inhibited.”

Marshall McLuhan (August 1965, age 54)  The answer is …

Of course (d) – which, if memory serves me, I followed up with:

Another interesting word.  Inhibited is the opposite of exhibited, and what is exhibited causes you to be inhibited.

Cordially, Marshall and Me

Reading

Herb Caen, “Rainy Day Session,” San Francisco Chronicle, August 12, 1965, p. 25.

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What would Marshall say?

Me (August, 2010, age 58). McLuhan in conversation.

Forty-five years ago, in August 1965, McLuhan was in San Francisco to take part in the Marshall McLuhan Festival organized by the PR team of Howard Gossage and Gerald Feigen, who had organized the event to build McLuhan as a public figure.   One day they took McLuhan for lunch at a topless restaurant  along with journalists Tom Wolfe and Herb Caen.  In the article Caen wrote about the outing he reports this exchange between himself and McLuhan:

Being President of the Leg Men of America, I never felt a primal urge to lunch among the topless ladies, but in such distinguished company who could resist?  ‘Strip steak sandwich,’ I said to waitress Marilyn, who was wearing blue sequin pasties and not much else.  As she walked away, I commented ‘A good-looking girl.’

Question:  What do you think McLuhan said next?

(a)    “She certainly is.”

(b)   “I hear you Herb.”

(c)    “Excuse me, Marilyn, I’ll have the strip steak too.”

(d)   “Interesting choice of words.  Good-LOOKING girl.  The remark of a man who is visually oriented, not tactually.”

Marshall McLuhan (August 1965, age 54).  The answer is …

Of course (d) – I have little in the way of small talk.   And, if memory serves me, after I said that I said this:

And I further noticed that you could not bring yourself to look at her breasts as she took your order.  You examined her only after she walked away – another example of the visual: the further she walked away, the more attractive she became.

Cordially, Marshall and Me

Reading

Herb Caen, “Rainy Day Session,” San Francisco Chronicle, August 12, 1965, p. 25.

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Who should I invite?

Marshall McLuhan (1959-1967). The Monday Night Seminar.

Monday nights I like to hold an informal seminar to discuss the breakthroughs we are making in understanding media and think things through.  Someone asked me if we shouldn’t have some sort of admission requirements or selection criteria.  I said certainly not, requirements and criteria will only serve to reduce the intelligence of the group.

Me (August, 2010, age 58).  Pure speculation

Actually I don’t know if Marshall McLuhan said any such thing.  What he says, here, I must admit, is more purely my invention than is traditional on From Marshall and Me.  And for this lack of discipline I apologize.  Yet I imagine this is something McLuhan might have said given his views on the problems created by specialization in academia.  At any rate judging by the remarkable diversity of the people who took part in the Monday Night Seminars he clearly welcomed and encouraged the participation of people from widely different backgrounds and with widely different interests.

For example, here is a list of the participants who attended one Monday night in 1967, as recalled by Bob Rodgers, who at the time was a graduate student in English at Toronto and a next door neighbor of McLuhan’s on Wells Hill Avenue: an anthropologist (Ted Carpenter), three beatniks, a young man with a guitar, an Eagle Scout, an academic couple (Wilfred and Sheila Watson), a man in advertising, a CBC news announcer (Stanley Burke), a magician, a fortune teller, an Inuit carver, a wrestler (Whipper Billy Watson), and three graduate students.  I don’t know how smart this group turned out to be, but the conversation was undoubtedly stimulating.

And, as those of you have been following this blog know, I was at University of Toronto in the 70s.  Wish I’d gone.

Cordially, “Marshall” and Me

Reading

Bob Rogers, “In the Garden with the Guru,” Literary Review of Canada, January 1, 2008

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Wiseguy or wise guy?

Marshall McLuhan (1965, age 66).  Of course it’s obvious …

“What do you think, Marshall?  At the same time as we are chatting here, just the six of us,* America’s biggest communication conference, led by S. I. Hayakawa, the semanticist, is meeting across town at the San Francisco Hilton with over 1,000 people in attendance.”

“Obviously, it’s unimportant.  In the time it takes to get a 1,000 people to agree on anything conditions will have changed.  With the conditions changed the conversation will be pointless.  They’ll be meeting for the wrong reasons on the wrong questions.  Under electronic conditions of high speed change this is inevitable.”

(*Tom Wolfe, Howard Gossage, Gerald Feigen, Mike Robbins, Herbert Gold, and Edward Keating.)

Me (July, 2010, age 57).  What should be done?

As usual McLuhan’s wiseguy banter raises serious questions.  Under electronic conditions of high speed change are large conferences likely to be a waste of time.  A disquieting thought given the number and size of such conferences that continue to be held today.

Is McLuhan right on this one?  What is your view?  Are large meetings inevitably focused on the wrong things?  If so, what forms and methods for holding conferences are likely to be most effective?  Is the “unconference” the meeting of the future?

Cordially, Marshall and Me

Reading for this post

Tom Wolfe. “What if he is right,” in McLuhan: Hot and Cool, 1967, pp. 44-45.

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Michael Hinton Wednesday, July 7th, 2010
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Always on send

Marshall McLuhan (1965/66, age 53-55?).  In conversation with Howard Gossage.

“Marshall, will you listen for a second?”

“Why?”

“Because I have something to say.”

“Well, say it then.”

“That’s what I’ve been trying to do.”

“Well”

“Well what?”

“I’ve forgotten.”

Me (June 2010, age 57).   How bad was McLuhan as a listener?

It is agreed that McLuhan was a polite but not a good listener.  (The story being that he always waited for your lips to stop moving before he began speaking.)  Howard Gossage, who knew McLuhan well, says that while McLuhan was a bad listener McLuhan did have friends who were worse than he was.  For example, Gossage says that Buckminster Fuller, who was profoundly deaf, and often turned off his hearing aid, was the worst listener in McLuhan’s wider circle.  On one occasion, Gossage says, Fuller stopped him in mid-sentence with the question, “Do you want an answer or don’t you?  Very well, [said Gossage.]”  Fuller then proceeded to give him an answer.  One problem, it wasn’t the answer to the question that he had been discussing.  But then all Fuller had promised him was “an answer” not “the answer.”

The price of poor listening seems obvious.  What is the benefit?

Cordially, Marshall and Me

Reading for this post

Howard Luck Gossage, “You can see why the mighty would be curious,” in McLuhan: Hot and Cool, 1969, footnote, p. 24.

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Michael Hinton Friday, July 2nd, 2010
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The maddening Marshall McLuhan.

Marshall McLuhan (1967, age 65/66).  In conversation with Howard Gossage

“Marshall,” said Howard Gossage, “tell me something.  Do you have to be such a maddening writer?”

“What do you mean?”

“Well, I’ll be reading along and at first it’s great.  “I find that [my] … independently arrived at theories not only are confirmed by, but fit neatly into [your] … far broader structure, it is very heady stuff indeed.  And then wham.  You hit me with one of your probes.  Something that requires 5,000 words of explanation and you give me none.”

“Howard, if I stopped to explain everything I said I’d never get anywhere, besides there has to be something for the reader to do.”

Me (June 2010, age 57).   So what’s a man, or a woman, to do?

Perhaps the only thing you can do when you hit a probe [a question or statement designed to stimulate thought or insight] is to grin and then decide whether or not to do your work.

Here are some McLuhan probes:

People will not accept war on TV.  They will accept war in movies.  They will accept it in newspapers.  Nobody will accept war on TV.  It is too close. (1973)

The ideal show on pay TV would be a great composer rehearsing a symphony, not playing his symphony. (1967)

The TV image is the first technology to project or externalize our tactile sense. (1961)

TV is a service medium only during a crisis. (1970)

The TV as a today show is a continuous present.  There are really no dates. (1971)

Do any of these probes still “madden”?  What if in each one the word “TV” were replaced by “Internet” or “FaceBook”?

Cordially, Marshall and Me

Reading for this post

Howard Luck Gossage, “You can see why the mighty would be curious.”  In McLuhan: Hot and Cool.

Probes: Eric McLuhan and Frank Zingrone, Essential McLuhan, 1995, pp. 294-295.

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What was Marshall McLuhan up to?

Marshall McLuhan (December 13, 1977, age 66). I’m stunned!

Peter Gzowski actually suggested on television today that I had failed grade six!  The fact is – as told him – “I never failed any grade ever.”

Me (June 2010, age 57).  What was McLuhan up to?

What Gzowski asked was whether ordinary people who hadn’t attained McLuhan’s academic stature (Full Professor Toronto, Cambridge Ph.D.)  should be able to feel better knowing that McLuhan had failed grade six.  An easy question.  At least one would think so.  At any rate, McLuhan’s response clearly surprised Gzowski.

Why did McLuhan deny he’d failed?  It is a fact that he did fail.  And you can read about it in the biographies of McLuhan by Philip Marchand and Terry Gordon.  It is also a fact that his Mother persuaded the school to let him go on to grade 7 and prove he could do the work, which he did.  So why didn’t McLuhan say this?  What was McLuhan up to?

Cordially, Marshall and Me

PS:  For something completely different see yesterday’s post

Reading for this post

W. Terrence Gordon. Marshall McLuhan: Escape into Understanding, 1997, p. 10.

Philip Marchand, Marshall Mcluhan: the Medium and the Messenger, 1989, p. 17-18.

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Michael Hinton Wednesday, June 23rd, 2010
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The elusive Marshall McLuhan

Marshall McLuhan (May 19, 1966, age 54).  Foul play!

“How is it Professor McLuhan,” Eric Goldman asked me earlier today on WNBC television program The Open Mind, “that you should be so concerned with media?  Here you are the son of Baptist parents, convert to Catholicism, a Canadian student of English literature, formerly an engineering student and now …”

“Oh, don’t bother with that data.” I said.

“Why?

“It’s all wrong!  And in any case quite unnecessary.”

Me (June 2010, age 57).  What was McLuhan up to?

Gerald Stern who quotes this exchange between McLuhan and Goldman in his introduction to McLuhan: Hot and Cool says that McLuhan typically refused to discuss his family life, personal opinions or his past.  As a result, “personal and biographical information about McLuhan is difficult to trace.” And, “Stearn adds, “there is a coy, almost purposeful elusiveness about the man himself.”   Why?  Stearn suggests there is no good reason why McLuhan side stepped these subjects:  he was simply a “puzzling” character.

This is possible, but there is I think a better answer.  It is more probable that McLuhan actually believed what he said: that biographical details were “quite unnecessary.”  McLuhan was trained at Cambridge in the close reading critical analysis of I. A. Richards.  I imagine if McLuhan had been asked if asked about the usefulness of biographical details in the understanding of any authors work he would have said these details were “quite unnecessary.”  Everything you needed to know to understand a poem or a novel, Richards taught, was in the written work – that is in the work’s diction, rhythm and structure.   And this was the method McLuhan followed in his teaching.

(And see tomorrow’s post for a more troubling example of McLuhan’s elusiveness.)

Cordially, Marshall and Me

Reading for this post

McLuhan: Hot and Cool.  Edited by Gerald Emanuel Stearn, 1967, p. IV.

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Michael Hinton Tuesday, June 22nd, 2010
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The 100 percent sensible Marshall McLuhan.

Marshall McLuhan (Spring 1971, age 59).  McLuhan to Peter Newman

Did you hear about the man who went on a date with Siamese twins?  The following day a friend asked him if he had a good time.  The man’s reply: yes and no.

Me (June 2010, age 57).   Two cheers for Marshall

Yesterday a small test was made of Patrick Watson’s observation made on “This Hour has Seven Days” that no one can understand more than 10 percent of what Marshall McLuhan has to say.  The test of course was unscientific and leading rather than persuasive.  Today I want to present a more sweeping assessment of McLuhan’s sensibility.  Namely, that on unimportant subjects – that is subjects only tangentially related to media and media theory Marshall McLuhan is always easy to understand.  For example here is McLuhan talking about his personal dislike of technical innovation and change on the CBC television program “This Hour Has Seven Days.” (May 6, 1966):

“I’m resolutely opposed to all innovation, all change.  But I’m determined to understand what’s happening because I don’t choose to sit and let the juggernaut roll over me.  Many people seem to think that because you talk about something recent you’re in favour of it.  The exact opposite is true in my case.  Anything I talk about is almost certainly something I’m resolutely against and it seems to me that the best way of opposing it is to understand it.  Then you know where to turn off the button.”

What has this got to do with the man who dated Siamese twins? The punch line also works for the question:  Do you understand what Marshall McLuhan is saying?  Yes and no.

Cordially, Marshall and Me

Reading for this post

Who Was Marshall McLuhan, edited by Barrington Nevitt with Maurice McLuhan, 1995, pp. 109, 135, and 136.

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Michael Hinton Friday, June 18th, 2010
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